The Truth Is Out There at the Dreamland Resort (or Should We Say ‘Area 51?’)

Photo credit: Mobilus In Mobili via Flickr. CC BY-SA 2.0. Dylan Thuras interview of Joerg Arnu. Transcript of The Atlas Obscura Podcast – July 1, 2025.

Dylan Thuras: I love The X-Files. It is one of my favorite TV shows of all time. As of this recording, it debuted 31 years ago, which, God, makes me feel old. But here’s the thing about The X-Files. As a TV show, just like the writing, the plotting, it’s pretty hit or miss, to be honest. But as a concept, as a thing that entered my brain as an 11-year-old, it is near perfection. It ticks every possible box. It’s got rogue FBI agents, black goo, swamp monsters. It’s got government conspiracies about alien abduction, CIA disinformation. […]

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